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<blockquote data-quote="Deleted Member 44" data-source="post: 34576" data-attributes="member: 44"><p><h3>Characteristic of the third quadra</h3><p>The third quadra is represented by "intuitive-logicians" and "ethic-sensors" - and in this it is very similar to the first quadra. But the aspects dominating in the third quadra are opposite to the dominant aspects of the first quadra and correspond to the repressed, suppressed aspects in it.</p><p></p><p>The third quadra is dominated by: "black" logic (BL). "white" ethics (BE), black "sensing (ES), "white" intuition (BI).</p><p></p><p>"Black" sensory and "white" intuition dominate in the second quadra, which somewhat facilitates mutual understanding between representatives of the second and third quadras.</p><p></p><p><a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_HxWgNarSVOU/Sbg02BBN82I/AAAAAAAAAGg/JIGNYBaTZ_k/s1600-h/3kv-1.gif" target="_blank"><img src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_HxWgNarSVOU/Sbg02BBN82I/AAAAAAAAAGg/JIGNYBaTZ_k/s200/3kv-1.gif" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></a><strong>Ethics-sensorics in the third quadra are represented by an irrational extravert, a sensory-ethical extravert "Julius Caesar", (from the extravert, the ethics-sensorics of the first quadra "Victor Hugo" differs not only in the irrational arrangement of aspects - first sensorics, then ethics, but also in the fidelity of aspects: sensorics - "black", ethics - "white"). </strong>[Such an arrangement of aspects is called <strong>quasi-</strong> identical, and the relationship between sociotypes is also called similarly. "Hugo" - "quasi-identity" of "Caesar". All subsequent sociotypes of the third quadra are presented for comparison relative to the quasi-identical sociotypes of the first quadra.]</p><p></p><p><a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_HxWgNarSVOU/Sbg1J48bDBI/AAAAAAAAAGo/DuLTcQS3RNA/s1600-h/3kv-2.gif" target="_blank"><img src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_HxWgNarSVOU/Sbg1J48bDBI/AAAAAAAAAGo/DuLTcQS3RNA/s200/3kv-2.gif" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></a>Introvert, "working"(unlike Dumas, an introvert, an ethic-sensor of the first quadra)</p><p></p><p><a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_HxWgNarSVOU/Sbg1VwIcG7I/AAAAAAAAAGw/oWv8zoB8AQA/s1600-h/3kv-3.gif" target="_blank"><img src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_HxWgNarSVOU/Sbg1VwIcG7I/AAAAAAAAAGw/oWv8zoB8AQA/s200/3kv-3.gif" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></a>Intuitive logics in the third quadra are represented by a <strong>rational extrovert</strong> - a logical-intuitive extravert Jack London (unlike the irrational extrovert of the first quadra, an intuit-logic Don Quixote)</p><p></p><p><a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_HxWgNarSVOU/Sbg1dHBK4gI/AAAAAAAAAG4/5pRCtaaMcMk/s1600-h/3kv-4.gif" target="_blank"><img src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_HxWgNarSVOU/Sbg1dHBK4gI/AAAAAAAAAG4/5pRCtaaMcMk/s200/3kv-4.gif" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></a>But an introvert is an intuit -logic in the third quadra is just irrational - the intuitive-logical introvert Balzac (in contrast to the rational logical-intuitive introvert Robespierre).</p><p></p><p><a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_HxWgNarSVOU/Sbg1kOlZ4nI/AAAAAAAAAHA/oElCvH0nQKY/s1600-h/3kv-5.gif" target="_blank"><img src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_HxWgNarSVOU/Sbg1kOlZ4nI/AAAAAAAAAHA/oElCvH0nQKY/s200/3kv-5.gif" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></a>Caesar and Balzac constitute <strong>an irrational dual dyad</strong> in the third quadra.</p><p></p><p><a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_HxWgNarSVOU/Sbg1sS7n9ZI/AAAAAAAAAHI/CVQxTVpKFtI/s1600-h/3kv-6.gif" target="_blank"><img src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_HxWgNarSVOU/Sbg1sS7n9ZI/AAAAAAAAAHI/CVQxTVpKFtI/s200/3kv-6.gif" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></a>Jack and Dreiser form a <strong>rational dyad</strong> here .</p><p></p><p>As a legacy from the second quadra, the third receives a crisis of totalitarian systems and, as a consequence of repressions, a period of stagnation. But in the very third quadra there are huge internal reserves in order to bring society out of the crisis, namely: <strong><em>to destroy the apparatus of repression built by the second quadra, to neutralize the formal and informal power structures that arose during the period of stagnation; morally improve society, cleanse it of cynicism, cruelty and internal slavery, restore ethical principles in it and give the development of social thought a humanistic direction.</em>However, this is not all the deeds of the third quadra - its social role is not exhausted by the destruction of the "empire of despotism and evil" and the moral purification of society. There is also the most active creative activity here - one after another, reforms that improve the economy follow, the level of well-being of society, its social and legal protection increases; health care and education systems are being reorganized, and the fight for the environment is being waged.</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>Representatives of the third quadra are always reformers. </strong>It is in this direction that their civic activity is manifested in the first place. In their youth, they can still "get sick" with all sorts of ideological hobbies, but in adulthood they begin to understand that this is "not their way" - <strong>they prefer to work in the interests of their closest "team"</strong>: your family, your friends, your companions.</p><p></p><p>The third quadra is called <strong>the “storm and stress quadra”</strong> not only because it is characterized by the rapid evolution of social development, but also because the <strong><em>representatives of this quadra are characterized by an obsession with achieving goals. relation to the results.</em></strong></p><p></p><p>The third quadra is to some extent a direct successor of the social tendencies of the first quadra, since, by and large, it is oriented towards the same life values, but here these values already acquire a different interpretation and act in a different meaning. (This, in part, explains some sympathy that arises at a long distance between representatives of these, in fact, mutually conflicting quadras. For the same reason, we consider the third quadra not only in relation to the values of the second quadra, but also in relation to the values of the first quadra.)</p><p></p><p>The ideas of humanism, justice and equality from the logical category (the aspect of "logic of relations" (RL) in the first and second quadra) moved into the ethical category - the aspect of "ethics of relations" (BE), which dominates in the third, and then in the fourth quadra. (If the first quadra sees its task in awakening minds, the third quadra awakens souls: "The soul must work..."</p><p></p><p>) logical area - an aspect of "business logic" (BL), where the interests of the business, rationalism, ingenuity, expediency and labor efficiency prevail in the first place, and as a result of this - worthy payment for quality and professionalism.</p><p></p><p>The contradiction between the first and third quadras lies precisely in the fact that <strong><em>essentially similar ideas are expressed by essentially opposite aspects and are implemented by methods that, in principle, exclude each other. </em>That is why the representatives of the "conflicting" quadras speak among themselves, as it were, "in different languages", <em>giving the same concepts a completely opposite meaning</em></strong> ("they call white - black, black - white"). <strong>The reason for the misunderstanding lies in the fact that in each quadra the generally accepted system of values is expressed by its dominant aspects, and the aspects, passing from quadra to quadra, are modified. <em>Therefore, the interpretation of well-known concepts also changes.</em></strong>For example, a representative of the first quadra does not understand how it is possible, in the interests of good relations, to make some kind of constant concessions to a partner and constantly sacrifice something. "What kind of "good relationship" are these?! Okay, there would be some <strong>strong feelings</strong> (ChE), otherwise it's just a <strong>relationship</strong> ! (BE) Is a relationship an end in itself ?!" But the point is that for the third quadra, strong feelings are a consequence of good relationships ( <strong>relationships are primary, feelings are secondary</strong> ), and in the first quadra it is the other way around: good relationships are a consequence of strong feelings. ( <strong>Feelings are primary, relationships are secondary.</strong> )</p><p></p><p>- <em>But any hypocrite can easily establish good relations, while holding a stone in his bosom?!</em>the Reader will ask. - <em>Are the people of the third quadra so simple and trusting?</em></p><p></p><p>Representatives of the third quadra are indeed very trusting, easy-to-communicate and inherently democratic people. Snobbery is not characteristic of them at all, although they consider themselves entitled to divide people into "us" and "them", guided solely by personal likes and dislikes. It is this "division" that constitutes their ethical defense. Cause? - Weak "intuition of possibilities" - it is a repressed value here, and therefore they do not rely on it. But suspiciousness is not in favor here - the dominant "ethics of relations" does not allow this. But prudence, keeping a certain distance are not forbidden and are considered quite acceptable, since they protect a person from possible troubles.</p><p></p><p>Lack of ambition here is combined with self-esteem. But respect for seniority and universally recognized authorities is no longer an indisputable truth (as it was in the second quadra). The will of the parents is not unquestioningly obeyed - it is disputed here. (If necessary, they can outwardly agree, but act in their own way). Traditions are not particularly honored here - they endure as a kind of convention.</p><p></p><p>Representatives of the third quadra are characterized <strong>by independence of actions and judgments</strong> . It is completely indifferent to any of them who and what will say about them. It is enough that they think of themselves.</p><p></p><p>Indifferent to titles and ranks, they evaluate others only by their personal merits and qualities. (Themselves, if they have some kind of title, they don’t like it when it is mentioned once again - they feel embarrassed, and sometimes they even perceive it as irony, since they are usually critical of their achievements.)</p><p></p><p>Unpretentious in everyday life, easy-going , they are always among the pioneers and the first settlers. (For this reason, for example, Jack London and Dreiser are the most common sociotypes in the US - the <strong>pioneer dyad</strong> .)</p><p></p><p>Sensory sensations (BS) in the third quadra refers to the repressed values. Therefore, effeminacy and sophistication are not honored here. Comfort is always optimal, and household arrangements usually do not take much time. ("Quadra nomads": "wanderlust" is quite natural for any of its representatives.) Food is not made into a cult here. They think about their health last, and sometimes they prefer not to think at all - "it will hurt and stop, it will pass by itself." Infantilism is not in honor here. Children are not particularly coddled, they encourage early independence.</p><p></p><p>Секс в третьей квадре считается неотъемлемой частью аспекта "этики отношений", поэтому шутить на эту тему и широко обсуждать ее здесь не принято. Отношение к этому предмету - пуританское и довольно консервативное, несмотря на обманчивую внешнюю раскованность. О своих чувствах здесь стараются много не говорить (боятся их обесценить - слабая" этика эмоций") - <strong>чувства проверяются отношениями</strong>.</p><p></p><p>Блестящая карьера здесь не является самоцелью, - собственное место в системе иерархий тоже мало кого интересует (БЛ - логика соотношений здесь вытесненная ценность), <strong>хотя любому из представителей третьей квадры очень важно себя реализовать. Кроме того, чрезвычайно важен результат своей работы</strong>. (Доминирующая - ЧЛ)</p><p></p><p>Low pay here is perceived as a flagrant injustice. Even worse: unpaid work on the so-called "voluntary basis" is regarded as a shameless exploitation of someone else's time and forces, it is considered direct violence against a person, which, according to the people of the third quadra, is not justified by any ideological enthusiasm. (Ideology (CE), as an aspect of the ethics of emotions, is a repressed value here.)</p><p></p><p>In the third quadra, it is believed that any social work should be paid by society, since society should not exploit a person. (One of the basic laws of socionics: two rational functions, identical in terms of fidelity, cannot dominate in the same quadra. Either the rights of the individual (BE) or the rights of the system (BL) dominate.<strong>The rights of the system in the third quadra are a subordinate value. </strong>Here they prefer to work hard and get decent pay for their work, than to run around all sorts of instances, make "necessary acquaintances" and beat out benefits and rations for themselves - even the very thought of this is annoying. It is generally accepted here that society itself <strong>is obliged to</strong> take care of the social support of a disabled person, and to provide an able-bodied person with all the opportunities in order to realize himself as much as possible; and these opportunities should be <strong>equal for all and not bound by any restrictions</strong> .</p><p></p><p><strong>For any of the representatives of the third quadra, the most undesirable thing is the restriction of his business activity for objective reasons beyond his control</strong> - the so-called<strong>"a complex of bound hands"</strong> . The limited objective possibilities here are the most urgent issue: you can personally demand any dedication from yourself, <strong><em>but as a rule, it is not possible to influence any external circumstances</em></strong> . And not only because the "intuition of possibilities" (CHI) is a repressed value, but also because it comes into conflict with the "ethics of relations" (-BE) that dominates here, as well as with all the ethical attitudes that follow from this. If, for example, there is an opportunity to change the alignment of forces in society in a revolutionary way, then representatives of the third quadra exclude it for themselves from the outset and, in principle, do not consider it as an opportunity. No military coups and coups are arranged in the third quadra - for the reason(dominant "white" ethics "(BE), and, moreover, <strong>does not solve all problems</strong> (dominant" business logic "(BL). Here they prefer to unite in trade unions and seek social and economic reforms. (As far as possible, of course .)</p><p></p><p>Representatives of the third quadra really do not like to be "turned off from life" - this state kills them. (In the case, for example, when their activity is perceived as hostile, or constantly encounters some external obstacles, they begin to protect their creativity from prying eyes and create only "for themselves" - they develop a "mean knight" complex. this phenomenon is more typical for introverts of the third quadra - Balzac and Dreiser. "The "mean knight" complex is a trap from which it is very difficult to get out: at a decisive moment it becomes scary to open one's" treasures "for general discussion, and, perhaps, condemnation .)</p><p></p><p>And yet, unfavorable conditions for creativity are not a particular hindrance here - under any circumstances, in peacetime or in troubled times, a representative of the third quadra will certainly find a way to realize himself.</p><p></p><p>Unlike the first quadra, where an original idea, a successful idea, a fresh idea are considered a highly valued merit, in the third quadra, not so much the idea itself is valued as its <strong>implementation</strong> . It is <strong>creation</strong> that is most valued here, perhaps that is why all the laurels, all the honor and all the awards go here most often to the <strong>extrovert-realizer</strong> , the logical-intuitive extrovert Jack London (his social function is currently performed by B. N. Yeltsin), while time, as all the necessary conditions for this are being prepared<strong>extrovert-ideologist, destroyer of totalitarian systems" - "sensory-ethical extrovert" - "Caesar"</strong> . Its program function is volitional sensory with a plus sign (+CHS), which means the positive development of this aspect. noble goals, is truly crushing in nature. <strong>"Debris of autocracy"</strong> is, as a rule, the result of his activity.</p><p></p><p>In the third quadra <strong>, strength and morality are inseparable concepts</strong>. Therefore, simultaneously with the destruction, Caesar also advocates the moral "restructuring" of society. (This historic mission was carried out by M. S. Gorbachev. However, here he was assisted by a well-established "team" of the most influential representatives of the third quadra: his wife and comrade-in-arms - "Balzac", Ronald Reagan - "Jack London" and Nancy Reagan - "Dreiser". so that the reader thinks for a moment about what a powerful force it is - a dual pair, if two dual pairs that make up a quadra are able to make a turn <strong>of this</strong> magnitude in history.)</p><p></p><p>The next aspect that determines the nature of the activity of the third quadra is the aspect " ethics of relations" with a minus sign (-BE), introduced into the quadra by <strong>the ethical-sensory introvert - Dreiser</strong>. Its social task is the ethical correction of society, respectively, and the minus sign gives its activities a <strong>critical, negative direction - the moral restructuring of society, the exposure of social vices, the reorientation of public consciousness</strong> . The negative nature of this aspect is also manifested <strong>in the desire to impose strict ethical requirements on people, as well as in a kind of "ethical selection" - the desire to rid society of relationships with those whose ethical potential does not meet the necessary requirements. The aspect of "ethics of relations" in the interpretation of the third quadra is always "militant morality", "militant virtue"</strong>(since the aspects of volitional sensory and ethics of relations in the third quadra are interrelated: sensory gives ethics a "fighting" character, ethics directs sensory to achieve lofty goals). Such a harsh approach to business in this case is considered justified, since the social task of the third quadra includes the <strong>eradication of "remnants of despotism", internal slavery, as well as all sorts of immoral phenomena and prejudices that hinder the ethical revival of society.</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>The third dominant aspect is "operational (business) logic"</strong> with a minus sign. <strong>(CHL) - an alternative "business logic", the rejection of everything unprofitable and inappropriate, a change in economic orientation towards global benefit and efficiency.</strong>Since the legacy of the totalitarian regimes of the third quadra is not only economic ruin, but also economic ignorance, reforms that aim to rectify this situation should be in the nature of a global upheaval in the economy, the nature of a sharp economic leap that ensures the rapid growth of technical progress. The technical and economic transformation of society is carried out by logicians - intuits of the third quadra: the extrovert-realizer "Jack London" (the program aspect is business logic (BL) and the intuitive-logical introvert Balzac (the program aspect is the positive "intuition of time"). It is the combination of these aspects that allows during the period of emerging capitalist relations, to create the necessary technical and economic</p><p></p><p><strong>base.Positive intuition of time (+ BI)<em>means orientation to the future, to the future</em></strong> (although Balzac does not exclude the experience of past mistakes). <strong>This is a search for new and progressive forms in industry and the economy, this is the ability to take risks and navigate in a constantly changing situation. </strong>The positive direction of the "intuition of time" aspect is set here by the corresponding<strong> negative (alternative) business logic</strong> , which implies the<strong><em> reorientation of society towards alternative economic values</em></strong> . (Previously, they were guided by a satisfying ration, now they are focused on high earnings.)</p><p></p><p>Among other things, the third quadra is characterized by a period of social and political maturity, a period when wars are suspended and society focuses on the process of peaceful reconstruction and creation. Such is the social mission of the third quadra - it is wide and diverse: <strong>from the destruction of agonizing totalitarian systems to the comprehensive improvement of society and preparing it for the transition to a qualitatively new social turn - to the level of high technology, high spirituality, high welfare - to the level of the fourth quadra</strong> .</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Deleted Member 44, post: 34576, member: 44"] [HEADING=2]Characteristic of the third quadra[/HEADING] The third quadra is represented by "intuitive-logicians" and "ethic-sensors" - and in this it is very similar to the first quadra. But the aspects dominating in the third quadra are opposite to the dominant aspects of the first quadra and correspond to the repressed, suppressed aspects in it. The third quadra is dominated by: "black" logic (BL). "white" ethics (BE), black "sensing (ES), "white" intuition (BI). "Black" sensory and "white" intuition dominate in the second quadra, which somewhat facilitates mutual understanding between representatives of the second and third quadras. [URL='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_HxWgNarSVOU/Sbg02BBN82I/AAAAAAAAAGg/JIGNYBaTZ_k/s1600-h/3kv-1.gif'][IMG]http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_HxWgNarSVOU/Sbg02BBN82I/AAAAAAAAAGg/JIGNYBaTZ_k/s200/3kv-1.gif[/IMG][/URL][B]Ethics-sensorics in the third quadra are represented by an irrational extravert, a sensory-ethical extravert "Julius Caesar", (from the extravert, the ethics-sensorics of the first quadra "Victor Hugo" differs not only in the irrational arrangement of aspects - first sensorics, then ethics, but also in the fidelity of aspects: sensorics - "black", ethics - "white"). [/B][Such an arrangement of aspects is called [B]quasi-[/B] identical, and the relationship between sociotypes is also called similarly. "Hugo" - "quasi-identity" of "Caesar". All subsequent sociotypes of the third quadra are presented for comparison relative to the quasi-identical sociotypes of the first quadra.] [URL='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_HxWgNarSVOU/Sbg1J48bDBI/AAAAAAAAAGo/DuLTcQS3RNA/s1600-h/3kv-2.gif'][IMG]http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_HxWgNarSVOU/Sbg1J48bDBI/AAAAAAAAAGo/DuLTcQS3RNA/s200/3kv-2.gif[/IMG][/URL]Introvert, "working"(unlike Dumas, an introvert, an ethic-sensor of the first quadra) [URL='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_HxWgNarSVOU/Sbg1VwIcG7I/AAAAAAAAAGw/oWv8zoB8AQA/s1600-h/3kv-3.gif'][IMG]http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_HxWgNarSVOU/Sbg1VwIcG7I/AAAAAAAAAGw/oWv8zoB8AQA/s200/3kv-3.gif[/IMG][/URL]Intuitive logics in the third quadra are represented by a [B]rational extrovert[/B] - a logical-intuitive extravert Jack London (unlike the irrational extrovert of the first quadra, an intuit-logic Don Quixote) [URL='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_HxWgNarSVOU/Sbg1dHBK4gI/AAAAAAAAAG4/5pRCtaaMcMk/s1600-h/3kv-4.gif'][IMG]http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_HxWgNarSVOU/Sbg1dHBK4gI/AAAAAAAAAG4/5pRCtaaMcMk/s200/3kv-4.gif[/IMG][/URL]But an introvert is an intuit -logic in the third quadra is just irrational - the intuitive-logical introvert Balzac (in contrast to the rational logical-intuitive introvert Robespierre). [URL='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_HxWgNarSVOU/Sbg1kOlZ4nI/AAAAAAAAAHA/oElCvH0nQKY/s1600-h/3kv-5.gif'][IMG]http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_HxWgNarSVOU/Sbg1kOlZ4nI/AAAAAAAAAHA/oElCvH0nQKY/s200/3kv-5.gif[/IMG][/URL]Caesar and Balzac constitute [B]an irrational dual dyad[/B] in the third quadra. [URL='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_HxWgNarSVOU/Sbg1sS7n9ZI/AAAAAAAAAHI/CVQxTVpKFtI/s1600-h/3kv-6.gif'][IMG]http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_HxWgNarSVOU/Sbg1sS7n9ZI/AAAAAAAAAHI/CVQxTVpKFtI/s200/3kv-6.gif[/IMG][/URL]Jack and Dreiser form a [B]rational dyad[/B] here . As a legacy from the second quadra, the third receives a crisis of totalitarian systems and, as a consequence of repressions, a period of stagnation. But in the very third quadra there are huge internal reserves in order to bring society out of the crisis, namely: [B][I]to destroy the apparatus of repression built by the second quadra, to neutralize the formal and informal power structures that arose during the period of stagnation; morally improve society, cleanse it of cynicism, cruelty and internal slavery, restore ethical principles in it and give the development of social thought a humanistic direction.[/I]However, this is not all the deeds of the third quadra - its social role is not exhausted by the destruction of the "empire of despotism and evil" and the moral purification of society. There is also the most active creative activity here - one after another, reforms that improve the economy follow, the level of well-being of society, its social and legal protection increases; health care and education systems are being reorganized, and the fight for the environment is being waged. Representatives of the third quadra are always reformers. [/B]It is in this direction that their civic activity is manifested in the first place. In their youth, they can still "get sick" with all sorts of ideological hobbies, but in adulthood they begin to understand that this is "not their way" - [B]they prefer to work in the interests of their closest "team"[/B]: your family, your friends, your companions. The third quadra is called [B]the “storm and stress quadra”[/B] not only because it is characterized by the rapid evolution of social development, but also because the [B][I]representatives of this quadra are characterized by an obsession with achieving goals. relation to the results.[/I][/B] The third quadra is to some extent a direct successor of the social tendencies of the first quadra, since, by and large, it is oriented towards the same life values, but here these values already acquire a different interpretation and act in a different meaning. (This, in part, explains some sympathy that arises at a long distance between representatives of these, in fact, mutually conflicting quadras. For the same reason, we consider the third quadra not only in relation to the values of the second quadra, but also in relation to the values of the first quadra.) The ideas of humanism, justice and equality from the logical category (the aspect of "logic of relations" (RL) in the first and second quadra) moved into the ethical category - the aspect of "ethics of relations" (BE), which dominates in the third, and then in the fourth quadra. (If the first quadra sees its task in awakening minds, the third quadra awakens souls: "The soul must work..." ) logical area - an aspect of "business logic" (BL), where the interests of the business, rationalism, ingenuity, expediency and labor efficiency prevail in the first place, and as a result of this - worthy payment for quality and professionalism. The contradiction between the first and third quadras lies precisely in the fact that [B][I]essentially similar ideas are expressed by essentially opposite aspects and are implemented by methods that, in principle, exclude each other. [/I]That is why the representatives of the "conflicting" quadras speak among themselves, as it were, "in different languages", [I]giving the same concepts a completely opposite meaning[/I][/B] ("they call white - black, black - white"). [B]The reason for the misunderstanding lies in the fact that in each quadra the generally accepted system of values is expressed by its dominant aspects, and the aspects, passing from quadra to quadra, are modified. [I]Therefore, the interpretation of well-known concepts also changes.[/I][/B]For example, a representative of the first quadra does not understand how it is possible, in the interests of good relations, to make some kind of constant concessions to a partner and constantly sacrifice something. "What kind of "good relationship" are these?! Okay, there would be some [B]strong feelings[/B] (ChE), otherwise it's just a [B]relationship[/B] ! (BE) Is a relationship an end in itself ?!" But the point is that for the third quadra, strong feelings are a consequence of good relationships ( [B]relationships are primary, feelings are secondary[/B] ), and in the first quadra it is the other way around: good relationships are a consequence of strong feelings. ( [B]Feelings are primary, relationships are secondary.[/B] ) - [I]But any hypocrite can easily establish good relations, while holding a stone in his bosom?![/I]the Reader will ask. - [I]Are the people of the third quadra so simple and trusting?[/I] Representatives of the third quadra are indeed very trusting, easy-to-communicate and inherently democratic people. Snobbery is not characteristic of them at all, although they consider themselves entitled to divide people into "us" and "them", guided solely by personal likes and dislikes. It is this "division" that constitutes their ethical defense. Cause? - Weak "intuition of possibilities" - it is a repressed value here, and therefore they do not rely on it. But suspiciousness is not in favor here - the dominant "ethics of relations" does not allow this. But prudence, keeping a certain distance are not forbidden and are considered quite acceptable, since they protect a person from possible troubles. Lack of ambition here is combined with self-esteem. But respect for seniority and universally recognized authorities is no longer an indisputable truth (as it was in the second quadra). The will of the parents is not unquestioningly obeyed - it is disputed here. (If necessary, they can outwardly agree, but act in their own way). Traditions are not particularly honored here - they endure as a kind of convention. Representatives of the third quadra are characterized [B]by independence of actions and judgments[/B] . It is completely indifferent to any of them who and what will say about them. It is enough that they think of themselves. Indifferent to titles and ranks, they evaluate others only by their personal merits and qualities. (Themselves, if they have some kind of title, they don’t like it when it is mentioned once again - they feel embarrassed, and sometimes they even perceive it as irony, since they are usually critical of their achievements.) Unpretentious in everyday life, easy-going , they are always among the pioneers and the first settlers. (For this reason, for example, Jack London and Dreiser are the most common sociotypes in the US - the [B]pioneer dyad[/B] .) Sensory sensations (BS) in the third quadra refers to the repressed values. Therefore, effeminacy and sophistication are not honored here. Comfort is always optimal, and household arrangements usually do not take much time. ("Quadra nomads": "wanderlust" is quite natural for any of its representatives.) Food is not made into a cult here. They think about their health last, and sometimes they prefer not to think at all - "it will hurt and stop, it will pass by itself." Infantilism is not in honor here. Children are not particularly coddled, they encourage early independence. Секс в третьей квадре считается неотъемлемой частью аспекта "этики отношений", поэтому шутить на эту тему и широко обсуждать ее здесь не принято. Отношение к этому предмету - пуританское и довольно консервативное, несмотря на обманчивую внешнюю раскованность. О своих чувствах здесь стараются много не говорить (боятся их обесценить - слабая" этика эмоций") - [B]чувства проверяются отношениями[/B]. Блестящая карьера здесь не является самоцелью, - собственное место в системе иерархий тоже мало кого интересует (БЛ - логика соотношений здесь вытесненная ценность), [B]хотя любому из представителей третьей квадры очень важно себя реализовать. Кроме того, чрезвычайно важен результат своей работы[/B]. (Доминирующая - ЧЛ) Low pay here is perceived as a flagrant injustice. Even worse: unpaid work on the so-called "voluntary basis" is regarded as a shameless exploitation of someone else's time and forces, it is considered direct violence against a person, which, according to the people of the third quadra, is not justified by any ideological enthusiasm. (Ideology (CE), as an aspect of the ethics of emotions, is a repressed value here.) In the third quadra, it is believed that any social work should be paid by society, since society should not exploit a person. (One of the basic laws of socionics: two rational functions, identical in terms of fidelity, cannot dominate in the same quadra. Either the rights of the individual (BE) or the rights of the system (BL) dominate.[B]The rights of the system in the third quadra are a subordinate value. [/B]Here they prefer to work hard and get decent pay for their work, than to run around all sorts of instances, make "necessary acquaintances" and beat out benefits and rations for themselves - even the very thought of this is annoying. It is generally accepted here that society itself [B]is obliged to[/B] take care of the social support of a disabled person, and to provide an able-bodied person with all the opportunities in order to realize himself as much as possible; and these opportunities should be [B]equal for all and not bound by any restrictions[/B] . [B]For any of the representatives of the third quadra, the most undesirable thing is the restriction of his business activity for objective reasons beyond his control[/B] - the so-called[B]"a complex of bound hands"[/B] . The limited objective possibilities here are the most urgent issue: you can personally demand any dedication from yourself, [B][I]but as a rule, it is not possible to influence any external circumstances[/I][/B] . And not only because the "intuition of possibilities" (CHI) is a repressed value, but also because it comes into conflict with the "ethics of relations" (-BE) that dominates here, as well as with all the ethical attitudes that follow from this. If, for example, there is an opportunity to change the alignment of forces in society in a revolutionary way, then representatives of the third quadra exclude it for themselves from the outset and, in principle, do not consider it as an opportunity. No military coups and coups are arranged in the third quadra - for the reason(dominant "white" ethics "(BE), and, moreover, [B]does not solve all problems[/B] (dominant" business logic "(BL). Here they prefer to unite in trade unions and seek social and economic reforms. (As far as possible, of course .) Representatives of the third quadra really do not like to be "turned off from life" - this state kills them. (In the case, for example, when their activity is perceived as hostile, or constantly encounters some external obstacles, they begin to protect their creativity from prying eyes and create only "for themselves" - they develop a "mean knight" complex. this phenomenon is more typical for introverts of the third quadra - Balzac and Dreiser. "The "mean knight" complex is a trap from which it is very difficult to get out: at a decisive moment it becomes scary to open one's" treasures "for general discussion, and, perhaps, condemnation .) And yet, unfavorable conditions for creativity are not a particular hindrance here - under any circumstances, in peacetime or in troubled times, a representative of the third quadra will certainly find a way to realize himself. Unlike the first quadra, where an original idea, a successful idea, a fresh idea are considered a highly valued merit, in the third quadra, not so much the idea itself is valued as its [B]implementation[/B] . It is [B]creation[/B] that is most valued here, perhaps that is why all the laurels, all the honor and all the awards go here most often to the [B]extrovert-realizer[/B] , the logical-intuitive extrovert Jack London (his social function is currently performed by B. N. Yeltsin), while time, as all the necessary conditions for this are being prepared[B]extrovert-ideologist, destroyer of totalitarian systems" - "sensory-ethical extrovert" - "Caesar"[/B] . Its program function is volitional sensory with a plus sign (+CHS), which means the positive development of this aspect. noble goals, is truly crushing in nature. [B]"Debris of autocracy"[/B] is, as a rule, the result of his activity. In the third quadra [B], strength and morality are inseparable concepts[/B]. Therefore, simultaneously with the destruction, Caesar also advocates the moral "restructuring" of society. (This historic mission was carried out by M. S. Gorbachev. However, here he was assisted by a well-established "team" of the most influential representatives of the third quadra: his wife and comrade-in-arms - "Balzac", Ronald Reagan - "Jack London" and Nancy Reagan - "Dreiser". so that the reader thinks for a moment about what a powerful force it is - a dual pair, if two dual pairs that make up a quadra are able to make a turn [B]of this[/B] magnitude in history.) The next aspect that determines the nature of the activity of the third quadra is the aspect " ethics of relations" with a minus sign (-BE), introduced into the quadra by [B]the ethical-sensory introvert - Dreiser[/B]. Its social task is the ethical correction of society, respectively, and the minus sign gives its activities a [B]critical, negative direction - the moral restructuring of society, the exposure of social vices, the reorientation of public consciousness[/B] . The negative nature of this aspect is also manifested [B]in the desire to impose strict ethical requirements on people, as well as in a kind of "ethical selection" - the desire to rid society of relationships with those whose ethical potential does not meet the necessary requirements. The aspect of "ethics of relations" in the interpretation of the third quadra is always "militant morality", "militant virtue"[/B](since the aspects of volitional sensory and ethics of relations in the third quadra are interrelated: sensory gives ethics a "fighting" character, ethics directs sensory to achieve lofty goals). Such a harsh approach to business in this case is considered justified, since the social task of the third quadra includes the [B]eradication of "remnants of despotism", internal slavery, as well as all sorts of immoral phenomena and prejudices that hinder the ethical revival of society. The third dominant aspect is "operational (business) logic"[/B] with a minus sign. [B](CHL) - an alternative "business logic", the rejection of everything unprofitable and inappropriate, a change in economic orientation towards global benefit and efficiency.[/B]Since the legacy of the totalitarian regimes of the third quadra is not only economic ruin, but also economic ignorance, reforms that aim to rectify this situation should be in the nature of a global upheaval in the economy, the nature of a sharp economic leap that ensures the rapid growth of technical progress. The technical and economic transformation of society is carried out by logicians - intuits of the third quadra: the extrovert-realizer "Jack London" (the program aspect is business logic (BL) and the intuitive-logical introvert Balzac (the program aspect is the positive "intuition of time"). It is the combination of these aspects that allows during the period of emerging capitalist relations, to create the necessary technical and economic [B]base.Positive intuition of time (+ BI)[I]means orientation to the future, to the future[/I][/B] (although Balzac does not exclude the experience of past mistakes). [B]This is a search for new and progressive forms in industry and the economy, this is the ability to take risks and navigate in a constantly changing situation. [/B]The positive direction of the "intuition of time" aspect is set here by the corresponding[B] negative (alternative) business logic[/B] , which implies the[B][I] reorientation of society towards alternative economic values[/I][/B] . (Previously, they were guided by a satisfying ration, now they are focused on high earnings.) Among other things, the third quadra is characterized by a period of social and political maturity, a period when wars are suspended and society focuses on the process of peaceful reconstruction and creation. Such is the social mission of the third quadra - it is wide and diverse: [B]from the destruction of agonizing totalitarian systems to the comprehensive improvement of society and preparing it for the transition to a qualitatively new social turn - to the level of high technology, high spirituality, high welfare - to the level of the fourth quadra[/B] . [/QUOTE]
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